junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/02/2007 2:55 AM)
Well, it's interesting in the sense that an artist that big is doing it. When a Radiohead says "fuck the industry," and puts their money where their mouth is, people are more liable to listen.
Prince determined where to set the list price for the 3xCD Emancipation by polling fans on his website. Then there's V/Vm, who gives downloads away by the gigabyte and offers to make physical releases if enough people show interest. Then there's Goodiepal, who also gives downloads away by the gigabyte via V/Vm, and makes physical releases that are so insanely collectible that he sells them on eBay.
Personally, I am contemplating making my album, when it's finished, available by barter. Since my target audience is fellow musicians, send me something of yours or otherwise odd/interesting/one-offish, and I will send you mine. But I got the idea for that from Hardoff. So it's all been done before, just not by someone so high-profile.
For the record, I do like Radiohead, and I think I'll hold out for the physical release.
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subsonika
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Registered:01/05/2007
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(Date Posted:10/02/2007 1:39 PM)
i just pre-ordered it for a quid.
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/02/2007 1:56 PM)
Reply to : subsonika
i just pre-ordered it for a quid.
That's probably still more than they made off one CD when they were on a major label. I read once where Robert Fripp said he made as much money off one independent CD as 10 major-label CD's. In fact, he did not expect to make any money on major-label CD's; he just put one out every now and then to keep his name out there.
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keithhic
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Registered:08/08/2005
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(Date Posted:10/02/2007 4:05 PM)
Reply to : junkshop coyote
I read once where Robert Fripp said he made as much money off one independent CD as 10 major-label CD's. In fact, he did not expect to make any money on major-label CD's; he just put one out every now and then to keep his name out there.
thats clever, using power of the majors to promote your name (only).
now where can i found a major to big me up to the press?
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iivix
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Registered:05/16/2005
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(Date Posted:10/02/2007 11:19 PM)
I love the way that Radiohead are "experimenting" with new distribution methods like this... Hahaha, like we were all "experimenting" with similar alternative distribution methods from Napster v1... It's like saying, "Hey guys, sure, take our music for free, we're really generous", when looters have already ramraided the shop and have their pockets stuffed with CDs. Nice gesture, but...?
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subsonika
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Registered:01/05/2007
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(Date Posted:10/03/2007 1:19 PM)
It's like they are facing up to the truth - we can all DL any track we want totally free at any time. It's a fact and theres nothing the labels can do about it. haaaahaaahaaaaa
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Teterom
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Registered:08/06/2007
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(Date Posted:10/05/2007 12:25 PM)
People will still buy the artefact when it's released in January. Radiohead have received lots of free press and it's really not that daring.
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Hooray
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(Date Posted:10/18/2007 2:14 PM)
I saw this and thought it a pretty interesting insight into how many of the most popular music sites are basically existing off what they are spoon-fed by PR agencies etc. Not a great surprise per se, but still interesting in the face of Radiohead's mass appeal:
"Last week I highlighted the incredible coverage Radiohead achieved for ?In Rainbows', their new album download.
* Hype Machine, Most Searched (1)
* Hype Machine, Most Blogged (1)
* MyStrands, Top Artist (2)
* DIGG, Most DUGG
* Last.fm, Top Artist (2)
* Infofilter, Bit Torrents (5)
* Elbo.ws, Top Artist (1)
* Alexa, Top Movers (1)
* Yahoo, Top Music Searches (4)
Today, there are estimates that the album sold between 1.2 - 1.3 MILLION downloads!!! which, despite this being a global total, would almost certainly have given the band a UK number One album.
Now, all the charts above are generated in real-time, based upon what music fans are ACTUALLY searching for or listening too. So, now let's contrast this with the sites that rely on their content from record companies, PR agencies and pluggers. Since there were none employed on the Radiohead album, it's revealing to see how absent the band are on these sites.inrain_right
The most obvious absence is in the official sales and airplay chart since the album was not chart registered - ok, no surprises. But the lack of chart presence has had a powerful effect on sites who appear to place an high emphasis on what a small amount of people are buying.
So, what about AOL Music? Well, not a mention, until this morning when the band crept in at 7 in ?Most Searched'.
NME? Well, of course they highlight the band but today - when the album would have been Number One - they prefer to highlight the chart ?dominance' of the Sugababes...
MTV? No.
VH1? No.
Capital FM? No.
Virgin Radio? No.
Q4Music - No. Very suprising considering Radiohead were voted makers of the Best Album of all time....
Yahoo Music - featured artist? Artist News? Reviews? No, no and no
MSN Music - Kate Nash? Yes. Westlife? Yes. Artist Of The Month? James Blunt. Radiohead selling over a million digital albums in a week? No.
Bebo & MySpace? No. OK, so the band don't have profiles but no mention whatsoever??.
So, there you have it. One of the most influential UK artists of all time release an album in an utterly unique way, that even gains coverage on the BBC 10 o clock news. And yet, go to some of the UK's largest ?music' sites and there is no mention.
What can we conclude? Well, it appears that it doesn't matter how popular an artist you are. If you release an album that is not registered in the charts, or that the "music" sites can't sell themselves or there is no one from a record company handing their editors ready made stories, features or interviews, then your coverage will range from limited to non-existant.
It reveals the extensive hype behind the majority of music these sites feature, and why music sites such as Hype Machine are becoming the only true measure of popularity (which makes their name even more ironic...!)"
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Mighty Sucks Ass
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Registered:06/24/2007
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(Date Posted:10/21/2007 2:32 AM)
they would pay me
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Teterom
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Registered:08/06/2007
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(Date Posted:10/21/2007 12:32 PM)
Reply to : Hooray
It just goes to show. Nowadays it is difficult to define stuff simply by the means of the glib term 'popular'.
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