junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/20/2007 6:54 AM)
I got a phone call today from my web hosting company. I have one week to send them a statement of copyright - that I own the rights to everything I've uploaded. As if I didn't have enough to do around here.
I assume a one-page letter would do it. They didn't talk like there were any suits or cease-and-desist orders in the offing. I think the presence of so many MP3 files sent up a red flag that I might be giving away the new Metallica album or something, and now they have to cover their legal butts.
But it does make me worry and wonder if Hallo Excentrico! has finally appeared on the sample police's radar. I'd avoided MySpace for that very reason. Well, that and it does my head in just looking at it. Anyway, I figure several scenarios are possible once I sort this letter out and send it off:
1. They are satisfied and go their merry way.
2. I have to take down the mix sets, and the remixes on my personal site that don't fall under parody or fair use.
3. I have to take down stuff like Big In Albania which makes extensive use of samples.
4. I have to take the whole site down, in which case I'll probably just move the label to archive.org. I didn't want to have to jump through someone else's hoops to make you guys' stuff available, but if I have to, I will.
The domain is paid for through March of next year. If I have to take HE! down, I won't be renewing it, and DV will need another host. Hopefully that will not happen, but if it does, you've all been warned.
So. Does anybody have experience with this? Do you agree with my sizing-up of the situation?
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iivix
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Registered:05/16/2005
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(Date Posted:10/20/2007 3:09 PM)
I wouldn't worry too much about it to be honest. Tell them that you either own the copywrite to everything, or that it's all covered under some like Creative Commons or whatever. Don't give them any further details or act defensive. I doubt they'll actually listen to any of the MP3s to try and work out if mixtapes have unlicenced songs or songs have undeclared samples. Chances are, they're under pressure from MPAA or whoever to do this sort of thing, but ultimately it's not really worth their effort to enforce it, or lose customers. Alternatively, I have heard of being being cut off no questions asked, but that doesn't happen very often afaik
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/20/2007 7:35 PM)
Actually, this might have been some kind of "good cop-bad cop" tactic, IDK, but here's a snip of the conversation I had:
Him: So, is this stuff good?
Me: *laughs* Well, I like to think so....
H: Who would you recommend?
M: Well, I'm rather fond of Solypsis....
H: Yeah, I was looking at the Green Album, and the Cyan Album.... So, is this stuff like, breakcore or something?
M: Mostly V/Vm-style experimental techno, it doesn't neatly fit any specific genre, really. I'd recommend the Purple Album to start with.
H: Right on, this sounds like something me and my coworkers might actually be interested in listening to and passing around the office.
Now that's interesting, because they're based in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, and they brag that they don't outsource anything.
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/22/2007 3:02 AM)
Sorry guys, I had to delete the mix sets and the sample bank. Hope this will take care of the rest...
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keithhic
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Registered:08/08/2005
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(Date Posted:10/22/2007 10:54 AM)
shame the mix sets had to go, but that's a minor loss compared to keeping the rest of the content live.
(although my noisy set mix isall my own work.)
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/22/2007 2:05 PM)
Reply to : keithhic
(although my noisy set mix isall my own work.)
Really? Which one? Maybe I'll re-issue it with a release code number.
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keithhic
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(Date Posted:10/22/2007 2:27 PM)
I think it was HEMS15 the 16 years of me mix thing i did to coincide with DV live.
I'm not worried about ti being down - a show of "solidarty"
[url=http://hallo-excentrico.com/pages/hems015.html] an Odd/noisy Mix spanning 16 years can be found here [/url]
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/23/2007 1:52 AM)
Aha. OK, I will definitely re-upload when I can it if it's all you.
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Mighty Sucks Ass
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Registered:06/24/2007
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(Date Posted:10/23/2007 6:07 AM)
i am a host if your ever thinking of moving your operations, im pretty reliable, and can come pretty close to the big boys in terms of cost (well within reason).
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keithhic
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Registered:08/08/2005
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(Date Posted:10/23/2007 10:36 AM)
Reply to : junkshop coyote
Aha. OK, I will definitely re-upload when I can it if it's all you.
I promise, it's all my tracks (a travel through 16 years of noise making ).
I think the only two tracks used that contain recognisable samples are my "bob the bilder" and soup dragons "i'm free" remixes. (both of which i think are on other downloads of mine, on your site.)
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/23/2007 1:56 PM)
If they take me to task about samples, I am so outta there.
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/25/2007 4:23 AM)
OK, I've heard nothing, and they should have gotten the letter by now. So I called customer service, and of course the peon who answered the phone at 8:30 PM knew jack about it. "Call back during the daytime when the copyright guy is here." Sigh. As soon as I know what's up and can get to an Internet connection (I do not have one at work), I'll pass it on.
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/26/2007 12:32 AM)
Received today:
"We received your information that you sent to us today. This is NOT proof that you own the copyrights to the files. Your account will be suspended tomorrow morning if you do not remove the content."
I gotta take the site down, and all the audio from the DigiVom site. The links are gonna break. I need Mixo or iivix or somebody who knows how to update the DigiVom site to throw up (pardon the pun) something to explain the problem ASAP.
Thanks, and sorry.
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keithhic
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Registered:08/08/2005
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(Date Posted:10/26/2007 10:01 AM)
Shit.
what do they want a proof of copyright?
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Scandinavian Noize Syndicate
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Registered:04/02/2006
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(Date Posted:10/26/2007 12:45 PM)
man im sorry to hear that,hope it turns out good
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iivix
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Registered:05/16/2005
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(Date Posted:10/26/2007 1:54 PM)
Reply to : keithhic
Shit.what do they want a proof of copyright?
What the fuck consitutes proof of copyright? BASTARDS.
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keithhic
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Registered:08/08/2005
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(Date Posted:10/26/2007 2:25 PM)
Reply to : iivix
What the fuck consitutes proof of copyright? BASTARDS.
i think thye want us to all turn up at the office and play our tune to them.
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Teterom
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Registered:08/06/2007
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(Date Posted:10/26/2007 4:44 PM)
I'm a registered artist with Jazz Services and have been for many years.
I suppose that's not enough?
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
Time spent: 252 hours
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(Date Posted:10/26/2007 7:14 PM)
Reply to : iivix
What the fuck consitutes proof of copyright? BASTARDS.
Signed copyright forms and/or contracts in my name, apparently. If I don't act like a corporation, I'm not wanted there.
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keithhic
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Registered:08/08/2005
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(Date Posted:10/28/2007 10:52 AM)
if it takes forms (and you want to stick with them), I'll happily fill one out.
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
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(Date Posted:10/28/2007 1:02 PM)
I don't particularly want to stick with them, other than I would like to keep the domain name. I'll try and find someone who doesn't require all that crap. But if I do need it, I'll let you know.
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junkshop coyote
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Registered:04/05/2005
Time spent: 252 hours
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(Date Posted:11/02/2007 4:55 AM)
Have a look at this:
http://hallo-excentrico.blogspot.com/
Nothing there yet except an explanation, but as soon as I get my netlabel account sorted at archive.org, it will be the new home of HE!. I decided to take V/Vm's advice and re-invent it as a music blog, having seen how nice DV's blog looks.
X-posted to Announcements.
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